Robyn Cobb

Robyn Cobb posted a note > 1 month ago

Today's the day, join me 4 a real-time chat Wed Nov 25 @ Noon est w/ @swfrost @erikwolf' abt their new book "Marketing Unmasked http://cs.cm/CSeRF

Stephanie Erik?

Robyn Cobb

im here

Erik Wolf

Hi Stephanie, Erik and Robyn!! Hope all of you have a Great Thanksgiving!!

Bert DuMars

Thanks, Bert! :)

Stephanie Frost

Stephanie & Erik - Seems like ages since we last saw each other - over 24 hrs now. :-)

Bert DuMars

Thanks Bert, so nice to meet you finally yesterday by the way!

Erik Wolf

I hope all of you guys have a great Turkey day as well! I know...long time!

Stephanie Frost

Hey Guys

Robyn Cobb

Welcome everyone!

Robyn Cobb

I don't know about anyone else, but Thanksgiving is definitely my favorite holiday of the year! What could be better than a celebration of food?

Erik Wolf

Stephanie and Erik I've started reading the book it's really interesting

Robyn Cobb

What prompted you to put together Marketing Unmasked

Robyn Cobb

You must not have gotten very far then :)

Erik Wolf

Seriously though thanks :)

Erik Wolf

Ha - I'm about 1/2 thru it :)

Robyn Cobb

So what's the impetus for a book of this type

Robyn Cobb

Thank you! Our clients asked us a lot of these questions every day. We answered a lot of them via our blog so much of the book was reworking some of the blog content to make it more accessible.

Stephanie Frost

We really want to help the community of entrepreneurs, startups, and businesses we know and network with on a regular basis.

Stephanie Frost

So putting in the info in one place makes it easier to access

Robyn Cobb

We really liked the idea of honestly answering a lot of the questions that entrepreneurs ask but never get straight answers to

Erik Wolf

amen to that

Robyn Cobb

Well, a book is easier to read than having to go back and read blog posts but we also added new content to address some of the questions that we felt like a lot of agencies might not tell you...hence the "unmasked" theme.

Stephanie Frost

I like that the book is written in a language everyone can understand

Robyn Cobb

And you give real tactics and real examples

Robyn Cobb

A lot of it was also written "live" on our radio show which also helped us keep it conversational which I think was important

Erik Wolf

What do you guys think is the biggest challenge smbs and entrepreneurs face today when it comes to their marketing?

Robyn Cobb

Yes. It was great to have a lot of examples via some of our guests and people we know.

Stephanie Frost

Knowing how to weed through all the people that are yelling at them and telling them what to do...

Erik Wolf

everyone is a marketing expert these days and everyone has advice

Erik Wolf

As our guest yesterday pointed out, they aren't objective.

Stephanie Frost

Helping them understand how to marketing their product or service so that they are addressing their customers' needs rather than what they see as beneficial is key.

Stephanie Frost

I totally agree with that

Robyn Cobb

Yes, and we tried to provide some context for making marketing decisions -- tried to show them how to weed through all the different tactics/vendors/ideas available and pursue the ones that would benefit them the most

Erik Wolf

So what's the feedback so far?

Robyn Cobb

So far, better than we expected. Anytime you put your opinions, thoughts, whatever on paper...you wonder if people will think you're just full of it. But, it's nice to hear from some people that what we are saying resonates with them and has actually helped them.

Stephanie Frost

I think the best comment I've gotten so far was something along the lines of "if I'd read this book 2 years ago I would have thought you were dead wrong because I didn't have much small business experience"

Erik Wolf

People seem to be recognizing that very little of what they learn in books and business school is applicable to small business and I'm glad we can help fill that gap.

Erik Wolf

Yep Erik this is my first start up experience and it's very different from working for the large corporations

Robyn Cobb

however many of the challenges are still the same

Robyn Cobb

You really have to think differently but yes, many challenges are similar.

Stephanie Frost

In what sense Stephanie do you need to think differently?

Robyn Cobb

The challenges are pretty much the same but the risk in small business is higher

Erik Wolf

Well said Erik -

Robyn Cobb

Also many times in a small business the person doing the marketing is not a trained marketer

Robyn Cobb

You don't have the big budget like some large companies do. If you make a wrong decision, you may have just blown your entire budget for the year on something that didn't work.

Stephanie Frost

So what's the up side in your eyes of working in a Small Business?

Robyn Cobb

Not only are they not a trained marketer, but they're also responsible for every other aspect of their business. An entrepreneur is a uniquely distracted person :)

Erik Wolf

Independence!

Stephanie Frost

You have so much more freedom and don't have to go through layer upon layer of approvals.

Stephanie Frost

I totally agree Erik

Robyn Cobb

You have unique advantages as a small business owner -- independence is a great one :) From a marketing perspective, you're also faster than the big competition

Erik Wolf

Ha Stephanie! :)

Robyn Cobb

Exactly. Your marketing can be changed overnight if it needs to be.

Stephanie Frost

Erik I also think you can be more nimble

Robyn Cobb

Can you share a story

Robyn Cobb

Sure, any topic in particular?

Erik Wolf

of where you saw someone change their view and how it created success?

Robyn Cobb

I can give you one that ended up in the book actually and it was based on my own stubbornness

Erik Wolf

Yes...I was hoping you would share that. :)

Stephanie Frost

That would be great Erik!

Robyn Cobb

We had David Meerman Scott on our radio show and he talk a lot about how you should remove the barriers between your audience and your content... But like a lot of marketers I always subscribed to the belief that you should "get something" back from your audience if you give them content

Erik Wolf

But we tried it his way and removed the signup forms in front of all our whitepapers... And he was right -- we had as many downloads in the first month after as we had in six months prior

Erik Wolf

That's awesome

Robyn Cobb

You just can;t afford to become "set in your ways" in small business or as a marketer

Erik Wolf

That's why we are letting people download the eBook for free as well.

Stephanie Frost

Hey Stephanie I think that's really generous of you guys

Robyn Cobb

People are more likely to share if they don't have to give up something. We help more people that way.

Stephanie Frost

Can you share the url so folks can get to it from here?

Robyn Cobb

Awesome! Thank you

Robyn Cobb

And it doesn't even really "cost" us anything to do it -- we gain a reader and MAYBE lose a few $$ in royalties

Erik Wolf

It's a bold move and still very generous -

Robyn Cobb

So let's say I've read the book and I've got my plan and I'm ready to execute

Robyn Cobb

But we have a lot to gain obviously if someone downloads it for free and reads it or shares it and we end up doing work with that person down the road. The benefit of gaining readers definitely outweighs putting literally a few bucks in our pocket

Erik Wolf

How do I get in touch with you guys to help me execute

Robyn Cobb

You can email, Tweet, call, visit our website: zerogcreative.com

Stephanie Frost

We're very reachable.

Stephanie Frost

We're super-easy to reach

Erik Wolf

jinx

Erik Wolf

I see that :)

Robyn Cobb

So do you only work with small businesses or do you work with big brands as well

Robyn Cobb

in this digital age the big brands many times can learn a lesson from the smaller ones

Robyn Cobb

Really just startups and small to mid-size

Erik Wolf

Mostly smaller companies.

Stephanie Frost

Gotcha.....love the way you guys are echoing each other

Robyn Cobb

the sign of a good partnership

Robyn Cobb

So I saw you had a book launch party in ATL are there any other events planned or opportunities for your readers to connect to you directly?

Robyn Cobb

Yes! We hope to do some webinars soon and we are also available to speak at various events.

Stephanie Frost

Awesome that's exciting

Robyn Cobb

So I don't want to keep you all day but before we close

Robyn Cobb

Can each of you give our audience one tip they can take with them today without giving away the content in the book?

Robyn Cobb

Hey guys one of my friends from Launch Squad has a question -- Meet Aly

Robyn Cobb

Hey Robyn, what's an example of a lesson that a small brand could learn from a big brand?

Aly Gibson

Yes... you can't "pay your way" to success as a small business owner. you can't write a check to a magazine, seo guy, direct mail person, etc, and expect your phone to ring off the hook. Small business is about personal connections and developing relationships. "Get rich quick schemes" dont work

Erik Wolf

That's awesome Erik, thank you!

Robyn Cobb

Sorry -- I meant a lesson a big brand could learn from a small brand

Aly Gibson

Great question Aly!

Robyn Cobb

We were actually talking about this on our show yesterday...

Erik Wolf

Also, make sure you have a good team of trusted advisors that aren't "yes" men or women. You want honest, objective feedback. That will help you move forward.

Stephanie Frost

Erik that was the show with Bert Dumars right?

Robyn Cobb

Good point. That does seem important.

Aly Gibson

Is the link up to listen to it yet?

Robyn Cobb

Yeah, I'd love to tune in

Aly Gibson

Not yet but will be soon.

Stephanie Frost

Yes, the problem small businesses have a lot of times is that they get too personal and don't watch the business (paraphrasing our guest chuck blakeman)

Erik Wolf

Oh, interesting..

Aly Gibson

but big businesses have the reverse problem -- they can't make personal conenctions the way smal biz can

Erik Wolf

We talk about it all the time but @comcastcares on twitter is a great example of a big company being crazy successful doing things like a small business

Erik Wolf

Yes, I saw him speak once at a conference - very impressive effort.

Aly Gibson

However, as Bert can attest to, some of Newell Rubbermaid's brands are actually doing a great job of changing that trend.

Stephanie Frost

Aly do you any any more questions for our experts?

Robyn Cobb

Does anyone else have a question for Erik or Stephanie?

Robyn Cobb

Where do you see the future of corporate social media usage heading?

Aly Gibson

(beyond Twitter accounts, for ex.)

Aly Gibson

I see companies using their own websites more. Opening them up to customer reviews, integrating their marketing with the website. Making their "home" more dynamic and welcoming.

Stephanie Frost

I'm interested in the "augmented reality" stuff though it hasn't quite arrived yet. I think everyone is trying to find interesting ways to use the social tools to add value and not just create more noise

Erik Wolf

Thats a good point too Steph

Erik Wolf

Augmented reality was a big topic last week at the Web 2.0 expo

Robyn Cobb

Yes - very cool stuff

Aly Gibson

This is all very interesting, I'm excited to be working in this space at such a pivotal time

Aly Gibson

Thanks everyone!

Aly Gibson

Thank you Aly!

Robyn Cobb

Static websites aren't really helpful so that's why great Content Management Systems that are user-friendly (like WordPress) are great because it gives the company more flexibility to update their site as needed.

Stephanie Frost

Thank you :)

Erik Wolf

Thanks, Aly!

Stephanie Frost

Another great point Stephanie

Robyn Cobb

Ok guys before we land the plane I have to ask are you Turkey peeps or do you prefer the sides?

Robyn Cobb

Dessert. :)

Stephanie Frost

SIDES!

Aly Gibson

(stuffing all the way)

Aly Gibson

Erik?

Robyn Cobb

We're making pies today. :)

Stephanie Frost

Sides!

Thomas Cook

I love all my thanksgiving food equally. I really look forward to friday when I can take the whole dinner and shove t in between two slices of bread and pretend it's a viable sandwich

Erik Wolf

Yum Erik, I'll be there!

Robyn Cobb

I prefer the sides as well...

Robyn Cobb

Hey Stephanie and Erik and everyone who's watching or participated today thank you!

Robyn Cobb

Thanks for having us!

Stephanie Frost

Thank you!

Aly Gibson

Thanks for having us, really enjoyed it!

Erik Wolf

Please make sure you download the book and I'm sure they'd love your comments!

Robyn Cobb

Thank you guys, Happy Thanksgiving!

Robyn Cobb

Thank you! Everyone: have a great holiday weekend!

Stephanie Frost

Happy Turkey Day to all :)

Erik Wolf

Hey everyone! So sorry I missed this when it was "live".... Great insight and great questions from all. Erik and Stephanie, congratulations on the new book! And Robyn, thanks for orchestrating the chat! Happy Thanksgiving!

Rachel Rose

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  • swfrost
  • erikwolf
  • bertdumars
  • alygibson
  • thomascook
  • rachelwriter